HotEthics 2024: A Reflection

I attended HotEthics at San Diego yesterday. It was somewhat strange that I ended up attending: Scott encouraged me to submit a rant about my views on whether optimizations improve social utility, and the workshop required in-person presentation, prompting a trip to San Diego1. This blog is a reflection on what got published and said at the workshop.

What do Computer Scientists mean by "ethics"?

The workshop purportedly exists to discuss ethical concerns in the design of systems. But there seemed to be no conversation about what ethical concerns mattered. The talks varied between conversations about:

The audience discussion at the end seemed to be similarly mixed, suggesting computer scientists take the type of professional ethics courses required of engineers (thou shalth not take bribes to sign off on poorly designed bridges), which are of course useful but do we really need an entire workshop to learn that people should not be breaking anti-bribery laws?

The Role of Education

A lot of the discussion focused on the role of education in getting students to think about ethics when designing systems, One suggestion was engineering ethics courses (seemingly required in Canada), and the previous section talks about my concerns on that front, so we won't discuss that proposal. The other suggestions were to: (a) borrowing from the ML community; (b) borrow from courses at various schools; and (c) creating a new course. I am in favor of all three of these alternatives, but am unsure what they would cover. I wonder if this entire discussion is not a sign that computer science students need to be encouraged to take courses in other areas, a return to the original liberal arts way.

So the workshop as a whole?

So now that the workshop is done, what next? I am not sure: submitting a rant to a workshop is not a ton of work, but I am not sure whether it contributes to the community. If the goal is to really design systems ethically, we need to start by defining what that even means.

Cynically, I worry our definition of ethics will be dictated by what funding agencies and universities find important, which in turn will mean our ethical considerations will be dictated by the fears that appear in the newspaper opinion pages. If that is where we go, then HotEthics is likely going to be just another workshop on early work. As a community we seem to have an insatiable appetite for new venues.


  1. Trips to San Diego (or La Jolla, as seems to be always the case) also serve as a way to go to Shore Rider for margaritas and The Taco Stand for Mexican food, which is always fun.

    Field computer systems and architecture
    Type trip report
    Date 2024-04-29
    Tags HotEthicsASPLOS
    Audience unclear